Why Buy The JSF & Not Build An FTTP NBN?

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As a geek I love toys, big toys, little toys, basically anything that’s fun and interesting. When I first laid eyes on the prototypes that would become the F-35 Lightning II, colloquially known as the Joint Strike Fighter (JSF), I was awestruck. This boxy little craft could evade radar, came in Vertical Take Off & Landing (VTOL) variants, and enough armaments to take down a small country… or so Lockheed-Martin claimed.

It’s more than a decade after I first fired up HotBot (yes, before Google there were other search engines) to find videos of the JSF’s two prototypes, and my opinion of the aircraft has changed dramatically. Basically the JSF is a flying scrap heap; lengthy delays, faulty systems/parts, no stealth in the VHF band, huge blind spots, and lacklustre performance. This all adds up to an estimated US$200-US$300 million mess.

My question is pretty simple: why are we spending upwards of $15 billion on aircraft that will offer no return, cost as much each year we own them, yet not spending a little more on the NBN?

The worst part of this is there are many viable alternatives to these flying pieces of junk that may or may not be delivered. They don’t actually fill the role that Howard, Rudd, and now Abbott are trying to shoehorn them into. The JSF has always been designed to replace aircraft like the A-10 and F-16, and as the name suggests, the JSF is designed for strike capabilities. They are NOT designed for air superiority, I suppose the F/A-18 wasn’t either, and this exemplifies our military’s inability to understand even the basics of equipping ourselves.

In an ever changing world, having the best fit for purpose craft is far more important than kowtowing to our US allies. While it may seem smart to some to sidle up to such a superpower, to me it seems foolish to put one’s eggs in a single diplomatic basket. This is not to say we can’t be friends with the US, just maybe don’t rely on interoperability when equipping our troops.

Both Russia and China have superior aircraft on offer than the JSF, hell, their aircraft are superior to the F-22, beating it in almost every KPI. Yet to the Australian military they are still enemies, not to be trusted, or to have aircraft purchased from.

The sad fact is, even current generation Russian aircraft are superior to the JSF, as exemplified by a table in Air Power Australia‘s run-down of the JSF. For the JSF not to come out on top of the SU-35S should be ringing alarm bells as our neighbours are purchasing quite a number of these.

So why am I trying to link the NBN & the JSF? I think Van Badham put it best on Monday night’s Q&A:

Well, again, it is interesting and I have to bring it up again. I mean that we look at we need the latest and best technology with these joint strike fighters and that’s why we are spending $12 billion on them and another $12 billion in maintenance. And how great would it be if we had the latest and the best technology in terms of the NBN? And can we please start realising that politics and spending, it is all a choice. The choice of the Coalition is to have the latest and the best strike fighters but to have an inadequate and not the latest and the best form of internet structure and I think that raises some really interesting questions about the priorities.

That this government would earmark another $12 billion plus maintenance costs of $380 billion, in today’s money, from 2020 to 2050 (when the aircraft are expected to retire) while claiming that a $20 billion difference is “too much” and “too ambitious” for an NBN*. The key is, the NBN would make the $55 billion back, the almost $400 billion is lost, gone, no way of getting it back. Remember, the maintenance cost is all without including upgrade costs of the JSF.

An amusing part of this is, the predicted lifespan of 30 years is actually less than the predicted lifespan of fibre optic cables of approximately 100 years. Even if we upgraded the NBN ever 12 months at a cost of $2 billion, in today’s money, that would still come out cheaper than these flying disasters.

Are we such a nation of idiots that we can’t see the hypocrisy in spending $400 billion on broken aircraft while destroying the one thing that will actually make a profit for the government. Hell, the profits from the NBN could have been used to offset the ridiculous costs associated with maintaining the JSF.

All is not to be, we will be relegated to third world internet with third rate strike fighters and no air superiority. We can all thank little Johnny Howard for both situations, for if he had listened to telecoms professionals and military experts alike we would have FTTN already, be upgrading to FTTP, and considering our options with military aircraft.

I know many would love to frame the debate in an health vs guns, education vs guns, etc, debate, but the reality is, this is a technology vs technology debate. We are going to buy new aircraft no matter what, just as the NBN is going to be built, eventually, no matter what.

The debate is, as with the NBN, how we go about upgrading our military, not whether we should or shouldn’t spend on it.

My personal opinion is that the JSF is a waste of money; there are better options that cost far less to procure, and far less to maintain. The same cannot be said for the NBN moving to the multi-technology mix (MTM), this will be a costly exercise, will lose money rather than make money, and deliver services that are barely up to scratch now, let alone 5, 10, or 15 years in the future.

This government has a choice on both the JSF and the NBN, unfortunately Australia decided to give the keys to the lodge to a man who has no respect for experts, no respect for the internet, and no respect for Australians.

[* Just to correct the record: the estimated costs are double over the lifetime, not per year, & while my point still stands that positive income associated with the NBN is more worthwhile than a flying lemon, I do admit that this figure is rather high. I do however contest that the cost is merely double over the lifetime of the aircraft as many sources indicate that this cost will increase 2 to 5 fold over the lifetime of the aircraft, so the figure of "$12 billion maintenance costs over the lifetime of the aircraft" is far from correct, if anything we're looking at a total expenditure of just shy of US$100 billion]

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  • Ben

    You should do some more research, you get a lot of the basics wrong.

    First off VHF doesn’t make stealth ineffectual, it still has reduced ranges, requires the enemy to use large, bulky, power hungry radars with a very poor signal resolution(required for missile targeting).

    The F-35A Flyaway cost is 90-100million, the price you quoted includes development costs for the USA, this does not affect Australia.

    Performance is between the maneuvering of a clean F-16C/D with an F/A-18′s AoA and better subsonic acceleration, this was the requirement.

    The cost to operate the F-35 will amount to 12 billion over 36 years.

    There are no viable 5th Gen aircraft, RAAF has determined that legacy fighters will not survive future battlefields, the only cost viable option is a 5th Gen fighter.

    Your lecturing of RAAF that it should use specialised aircraft, a significant cost burden, while simultaneously complaining about the cost of the cheaper alternative reeks of hypocrisy.

    Russia has had some serious issues with the T-50 and America is the unquestioned leader in Avionics and VLO which is where the 5th Generation Aircraft are focused on. To claim that its “superior” is extremely dubious without any hard data.

    “maintenance costs of $380 billion” I have no idea how you arrived at this, did you just use the cost for 3,000 F-35s to be produced?

    The F-35A for Australia’s 58 is 12 billion to purchase the Aircraft, Training, Facilities and Weapons, along with 12 billion over 36 years to maintain capability.

    “spending $400 billion” more absurdly false numbers.

    At the end of the day, your entire post is based upon the false notion that we can’t do both, aka, False Dichotomy.

    • sortius

      Hmm, maybe you should take some of your own advice:

      Did I make any claim other than a lack of stealth in the VHF band? Read the article linked.

      12.4 billion/58 is ~$214m

      The next point is a patent lie, seeing as it has almost no manoeuvrability at high or low speeds, the main gripe from both USAF & RAAF pilots. Maybe read one of the litany of articles on the JSF’s manoeuvrability problems:

      F-35′s latest sales pitch: “Maneuverability is irrelevant” http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/the-dewline/2009/05/jsf-marketing-video-maneuverab/
      “No way an F-35 will ever match a Typhoon fighter jet in aerial combat” Eurofighter test pilot says http://theaviationist.com/2013/02/11/typhoon-aerial-combat/

      and on, and on, and on, the articles talking of the utter failure the F-35′s manoeuvrability is.

      That’s Abbott’s assumption, many US military experts are stating a 2 to 5 times increase in maintenance costs of $9m per annum over the 30 year life span. Hell, even Liberal senator David Johnston thinks costs for the first 12 would have ballooned out to $30-$40 billion: http://www.senatorjohnston.com.au/Media/MediaReleases/tabid/69/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/52/JSF-COSTS-SET-TO-BLOW-OUT-TO-30–40-BILLION.aspx

      Indeed there are no viable 5th gen aircraft at all. The Raptor & the JSF are far from ideal, with even the SU-35S kicking the shit out of the JSF.

      “Your [sic] lecturing of RAAF”… wow, talk about straw man. I lectured no one, in fact, I stated that the JSF was a flying garbage heap, much like everyone else that’s actually read the reports.

      I lectured no RAAF personnel, nor did I claim that the cost alone was the problem. The cost for something that doesn’t fill the role that Australia is attempting to use them for is not acceptable. The JSF is expensive, massively broken, and not designed for what Australia wants them for.

      They are not a catch-all aircraft, but a niche aircraft that doesn’t even do that well.

      Did you even read my article? Because your comment says you didn’t.

      • Ben

        Did I make any claim other than a lack of stealth in the VHF band? Read the article linked.
        ” New U.S. Stealth Jet Can’t Hide From Russian Radar ”
        ” The JSF, is not in fact, Stealthy ” etc etc in the Article, did you read it?

        “12.4 billion/58 is ~$214m”

        Which includes facilities, training and maintenance, everything that is required for any aircraft purchase, the flyaway cost is the difference and what is important in evaluating the F-35 against other aircraft.

        “The next point is a patent lie, seeing as it has almost no manoeuvrability at high or low speeds, the main gripe from both USAF & RAAF pilots. Maybe read one of the litany of articles on the JSF’s manoeuvrability problems:”

        ““I can’t even explain the adrenaline rush you get when you light the afterburner on that thing…The acceleration is much better than an F-16.” – Air Force Lt. Col. Eric Smith”

        In the subsonic flight regime, the F-35 very nearly matches the performance of its’ larger, more powerful cousin, the F-22 Raptor, Beesley explained. The “subsonic acceleration is about as good as a clean Block 50 F-16 or a Raptor- which is about as good as you can get.” Beesley said.

        Operational pilots should be thrilled with the F-35′s performance, Kelly said. The F-35 Energy-Management diagrams, which display an aircraft’s energy and maneuvering performance within its airspeed range and for different load factors, are similar to the F/A-18 but the F-35 offers better acceleration at certain points of the flight envelope.

        Maneuverability is as good as or better then the jets it’s replacing.

        “No way an F-35 will ever match a Typhoon fighter jet in aerial combat”

        A dog-fighting specialised plane is better at dog fighting? Who would have thought, but then
        “Two other German officers, Col. Andreas Pfeiffer and Maj. Marco Gumbrecht, noted in the same report that the F-22′s capabilities are “overwhelming” when it comes to modern, long-range combat as the stealth fighter is designed to engage multiple enemies well-beyond the pilot’s natural field of vision – mostly while the F-22 is still out of the other plane’s range. Grumbrecht said that even if his planes did everything right, they weren’t able to get within 20 miles of the next-generation jets before being targeted.”

        “US military experts are stating a 2 to 5 times increase in maintenance costs of $9m per annum over the 30 year life span”

        Experts/random s, any actual facts?

        “I lectured no one, in fact, I stated that the JSF was a flying garbage heap, much like everyone else that’s actually read the reports.”

        ” I suppose the F/A-18 wasn’t either, and this exemplifies our military’s inability to understand even the basics of equipping ourselves.” Stands for itself.

        ” The JSF is expensive, massively broken, and not designed for what Australia wants them for. ”

        Considering the JSF deal was only 8% more then the Hornets deal on a per plane basis, this debunks your expensive claim, and the RAAF is one pushing for the JSF i’d say your wrong there too on it being wrong for Australia.

        http://www.examiner.com.au/story/1360644/raaf-ignored-joint-strike-fighter-advice/

        https://www.aspi.org.au/publications/strategic-insights-9-is-the-jsf-good-enough/SI_JSF.pdf

        “Did you even read my article? Because your comment says you didn’t.”

        I read it and it was horrible, full of inaccuracies and absolutely absurd claims.

        • Stephen Colman

          The best part of watching Ben rip apart Sortius was when someone who knows absolutely nothing about air defence capabilities – but read a couple of blog last week – tries to go toe-to-toe with expert.

          Stick to writing about broadband, Sortius.

  • sortius

    FYI: If you’re not going to read the references on the article, don’t bother commenting.

    Trolls will be blacklisted & have their comments deleted retroactively. This is made clear in the about page.

  • olddavey

    I’ve also heard that for every hour in the air these flying nappy buckets require on average 11 hours of servicing/re-arming/re-fuelling etc.
    If that’s true and we had 100 of the things you could only have 8.5 on duty at any one time which makes them fairly useless against a well equipped adversary.
    From memory (failing rapidly) downtime for most combat aircraft is around 75% but because Tony’s new toys are so complex that blows out to nearly four times longer.

    Another thing that worries me is our Defence Minister. He appears not to have a grip on the portfolio and doesn’t understand what he is saying until after he has said it.
    A bit like the new Earl of Conrovia, Malcolm the Malingerer.